It's a stupid man-made rule. My mom started to tell me that my son looked like a girl from the back because of his long hair. I told her that Jesus must have looked like a girl too. She never said another word.
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and it really used to annoy me that jesus and john the baptist both had such neat and well trimmed beards in the watchtower literature , how unlikley would that be in reality ?
also they never wore a suit so why do "true christians "have to wear one , is all about appearences by any chance and giving a false impression ?
It's a stupid man-made rule. My mom started to tell me that my son looked like a girl from the back because of his long hair. I told her that Jesus must have looked like a girl too. She never said another word.
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what a common tale.
you marry early becasue you can't have sex.. i was married at 19 and divorced at 50. the only thing that held it together was our involvement in the jw's.
otherwise it would have been over in less than 5 years.. my kids are not witnesses and have a terrible relationship with their mother, as she is always trying to shove it down their throats.. this is still happening.
I was 20. She was 23. Still together after 20 yrs. Wouldn't trade her for anything, even though we don't agree about the dubs.
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this dear friends was the title of the public discourse today.
in fact, i am in my truck, on my laptop writing during this momentus public discourse.
i actually had to get up and leave because i was so disgusted with the material.
This dear friends was the title of the public discourse today. In fact, I am in my truck, on my laptop writing during this momentus public discourse. I actually had to get up and leave because I was so disgusted with the material. 1st of all though, I need to say that the only reason I am actually at this borefest is because I work out of town all week and do not want to sit at home away from my family while they come here. This way I can still be with them, and as I will tell later, have some influence on them.
So, in the introduction of his discourse, he talks about those who build schools, orphanages, and hospitals and help the elderly in the same breath as those who are religious fanatics. Examples include a small country where each year someone is literally crucified like Jesus, and those who perform self-flagellation, inflicting pain on themselves in the name of god. He literally did not miss a beat by listing the fanatics with the actual people who really try and help others.
That was bad enough, but I had to see if he would ever separate them from the fanatics. He did. He talked about the fanatics and how that doesn't glorify god. He then asked the question, "But what if we had the best leaders and the best people in office as mayors and city councilmen to do good works? Is that glorifying god? What about those who build hospitals? Lets turn to the bible." He went to the scripture that asks "But what about those who did good works in your name?" This was then twisted to say that if they were not actually in the preaching work, it did not matter what they were doing, they were not glorifying god. DIsgusting! How can they sit there and listen to that tripe and actually think that by annoying people in the privacy of there homes that they glorify god? How much more does ANY church group bring glory to god when they build an orphanage or a hospital or any other good thing that does actual good for others? Come on already. What an arrogant bunch of bastards!
I'm done ranting. I've had my say, but want to finish my earlier thought. My wife told me this morning that my 13 yr old son no longer wants to be a witness and does not want to go to meetings. I said nothing, but leaped for joy silently. At the assembly, before it started, I took him for a walk. I said "You know how I feel about this stuff right? Here's the deal. I want nothing more than to ave each and every one of you never go to another meeting. I can't stand to be in a religion that teaches hatred. How can you live with a religion that says think exactly like us or we will not talk to you anymore?" I went on to explain that I was keeping my mouth shut so that I didn't get DF'd or kicked out so that when my kids grow up and have kids, I could still associate with them. He thought that was stupid that he would be expected to quit talkig to me and not have me see his kids. I told him he needed to keep the peace with his mom and just go to the meetings, but he does not have to believe what they teach. He thought that was fine and his whole attitude changed.
I feel like I am winning the battle very slowly. Eventually, I will have all of them out and away from the hypocrisy. It will just take more time. Thanks for reading this.
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(leviticus 21:18-20) 18 in case there is any man in whom there is a defect, he may not come near: a man blind or lame or with his nose slit or with one member too long,19 or a man in whom there proves to be a fracture of the foot or a fracture of the hand, 20 or hunchback or thin .
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.. see.....they are kicking me all over the place!!
one member too long,
Your right Oompa. How rude to mention your nose like that.
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My bed.
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i just dont think i can take it anymore....my wife of 11 years is such a great gal... but we are just not connecting anymore......otwo says hang in there...as she may come around and wake up!!
!....but the extreme differences in our lifes are starting to take a toll...and may be making me want to drink too much.....i should not need to self medicate like this!!
!.....soooooo wish i had never woken up or could just deal with the real truth....what a rock to my world.......nothing will be the same.................................................oompa.
Jesus Christ Oompa! Suck it up! You love your wife, do all the things you can do with her and make sure there is a connection beyond the dubs. It's easy to sit and cry in your beer, but much more difficult to ttry and get past the differences. Let her be her and enjoy the things you can...together. If that isn't gonna work, then man up and move on. Don't sit around with your thumb up your ass wondering what life would be like if this or that or whatever. Here's a cliche for you:Life is what you make it. Good advice. Pull your head out of the bottle and get on with life. You've got kids to think of. Make sure they think well of you and everything else will fall into place. That's all the advice you're gonna get from Dr. Cold Creek. I can say these things because I already live your life-but without the booze.
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took awhile didnt it?.
at what point did you ever look in a mirror and thank yourself for working through this?
it took me about 5 years after i finally realized the wt was a sham.
I just turned 41. Took me till I was 39 to finally understand and accept myself. That all came about by finally realizing that I do not have to live my life worried about what others think of me or worry about how they perceive my actions. Once I realized that, I no longer cared what others thought, I was able to move on and accept me for who I am. I know me now. I like who I am. I don't care what others think-take me or leave me, I am who I am.
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i have a question:.
how long do you stay in love?
for those of you who are married, are you together "just for the kids"?
I agree with Dawg. Forever. I've been married for 20 years. Love my wife more now than ever before. Can't imagine life without her. Here's the deal though. I still love my 1st love. Not the same woman. Wouldn't trade my wife for anyone, but I will never forget what it felt like to be in love for the 1st time. If I saw her now, I'd give her a big hug and tell her what a great life I have. No regrets, I just realize that feelings don't really go away-they just get put aside for reality. We can live in the present or make ourselves miserable with the "what might have beens".
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word is spreading.. the elder that works with me told me that a ministerial servant in his congo asked him about the un scandal.. he confirmed to the brother that the watchtower was involved with the un but later disassociated itself and warned him that not all elders would handle his question so discreetly.. i doubt we'll see the cult disappear, but it's encouraging to see that many are waking up and are at least asking some difficult questions..
Oompa,
Here is my question to you: If going swimming at the Y is considered apostasy, then how can they actually join and promote the very organization that they claim is the whore of babylon and the wild beast of revelation? The very offspring of Satan as it were? I just wanna go swimming. They think I'm getting innerfaith treatment. Yet they become a member of this "Horrible terrible" organization and it's status quo for them. Do the math.
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ok, so i'm looking for a new book to start reading.... any genre, any style.. what are you favorite books of all time?.
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Pillars of the Earth- Ken Follet
Stranger in a Strange Land- Robert Heinlein